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Assigned To: Russell A Moore
Created By: Russell A Moore
Created Date/Time: 11/22/2017 8:47 pm
 
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Time Id: 3261
Template/Type: Brandon Time
Title/Caption: AFB Time
Start Date/Time: 11/28/2017 3:00 pm
End Date/Time: 11/28/2017 4:00 pm
Main Status: Active

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Notes:
On a Zoom session with Russell. We merged in some code, talked about some projects. As part of our conversation, Russell gave me some advice on a past project from the Shop era that is still outstanding. Here are a couple of my notes to help me remember what he was saying:

- Make a list of what is still needed.
- Make a list of what was promised.
- In the future, try to go more with estimates vs. a full bid or set price.
- Figure out how much it will cost to bring the project all the way to completion.
- Reset some budgets and try to stick by them.
- Have a meeting with the client.
- Figure out where the communication gap was and/or managing expectations.
- Rebid or re-estimate if possible.
- We may have to do some matching of funds.
- We need to educate our clients about feature creep and how that affects timelines, budgets, and expectations.

Later on, I was talking to my dad and Steve and they had some ideas as well. These are from my dad and Steve (I talked with both of these guys on 11/29/17 - the day after the initial talk with Russell):

- It might be worth the time and money to setup a face to face meeting.
- Maybe take Dave, Alan, and Russell. Each of these guys has and/or brings a certain flavor to the table.
- Be a peacemaker.
- Adilas may need to fund some of the development or I may need to do it myself.
- At the same time, it takes money and we may not want to jump in and save someone.
- We don't have a crystal ball to see if this company is going to make it or not... there is some risk there.
- Using our top developers and guys, there is a cost associated with that including opportunity costs.
- If you look at other projects, they have much bigger price tags on them and there is still no guarantee that things will work out perfectly. Steve had tons of examples of big projects that have failed, even with millions of dollars invested.
- Even if you paid more money, is it enough to get you to first base? What will it take to get all the way home? These things tend to grow and grow and need tons of maintenance along the way. Usually, it is not just one push and your done.
- We need to meet and figure things out.
- See elements of time # 3273 for some notes between Brandon, Alan, and Dave Forbis talking about this project.

Towards the end of the session, Russell and I spent some time and looked into the AFB employee time clock app and started in on a small code review. We weren't able to finish due to time.